honestly i think it is the same just both link are contributed by two different genius who successfully break the sd lock .. feel bad for sifu madifa...
How is it compares with Super Inap from Pak AB? Own experience Super Inap much better than Renoma 2 and even Babyking. Nest increase few times with Super Inap.
boss eugene do you meant the super inap shared here on wikiwalet? I've always wanted to try another internal sound(using superbabyking) but always too scared and unsured.
Boss wiki can i compare superbabyking and super inap by making them into right/left sound? Is it advisable to play 2 internal sound at once in a bh? Please help anyone !!
I belief there is nothing wrong for playing 2 different internal sound, to be more safe my advise is try separate both sound like in two session or two different nesting room..
As for superbabyking i heard it is good however i am still going with babyking , whereas for super inap so far i only tried this sound for my roving area and it is really good.
Btw , boss summer is your superbabyking really giving great result as many ppl claimed? Always wanted to try this sound..
Atually i've only used 2 internal sound before .. 1 provided by my consultant and the other is superbabyking ... The one my consultant used hardly makes the bird stick to the tweeter .. So i decided to change to superbabyking, the result bird stick to the tweeter and after 3month i've seen more nest and accumulated birdshit.
wiki, can you kindly give the link for Superbabyking and Babyking? I dont know if my version is the same as yours.. I recently found out that the Hypno-5 you shared out is the same as Superbabyking lol
Interesting finding .. wiki will look into this sound hypno 5 and superbabyking sound...
note: many sound have similar tone but always observe the sound wave, recording format, the sound technique and most important the content of the sound and the sequence + etc.
All in all, we should always give credit to our great swiftlet phd sound.. Wiki is merely only a DJ trying to learn my way to invent a new wave of swiftlet sound, again definitely with a great numbers of powerful loop in my album by our great sifu as references.
Boss Summer, I'm referring to original Super Inap from Pak Arief, assuming it is the same as in Wikiwalet.
Originally consultant used Babyking (other name) but result not good. Partly or should say mainly due to screw up design by the consultant. 1 yr record totally of 1 nest by the 'sifu' and still asking to be patiencely wait.
Took over immediately, seeked some advices and reno. Used Renoma 2, yes some improvement but still slow aft mths. Again, did couple of reno.
Once change sound from Renoma to Babyking and the shits turned white. Still puzzle some say it is sign that birds got stressed up if you see watery white dropping, is it true? Tat's own experience with Babyking during sound change.
Later, replaced with Super Inap and the number having been steadily increasing every month. Again, mainly due to major design change, sound is add on bonus.
To me who is newb, im kind of puzzled about internal sounds.
thru my listening to the sounds,
1.BJA (external) shared in wiki's blog is same as my baby king sound. 2.Inap Super of Pak AB is similar to Super Inap shared in wiki's blog.
Can fellow frens here pls confirm?
right now im using 2 internal sounds i bought directly from sifu with locked sd card. 1 sound is similar to BJA internal as shared by wiki and the other is mostly the sound of very young baby birds (piyik tak berbulu i think).
Sound no.1 seems to perform better with more nest counts near its tweeters right now. but i might be wrong due to i play this sound at corner tweeters and due to frequent change in external sound previously.
right now, i hav got all internal conditions stabled, simplify and constant external sound which seemed quite encouraging. i will wait and see the results.
fellow frens, what are good characteristics of internal sound to be used for new bh?
I hope we can share our ideas here and mutual learning.
Referring to your question about BJA & Babyking.. I am sure many of us already aware Babyking is the edited version of BJA from indonesia. The Bja shared in the blog is the original version if i am not mistaken.. However, if you asked me which version should i go with i will have to support sifu harry for this sound :)
One thing i am sure many aware, babyking is a very good sound to lure baby swiftlets staying in your new bh but in long run you will notice birds tend to take more own sweet time making their nest as compared to many good internal sound like the classical 123 riau sound (very bad recording even with chicken calling sound can be heard)...
As the result, what i did to balance up my population and nest is i used 2 internal sound played at 2 separate session in my bh.. and the result is very welcoming.. :)
Try consider using 1 clear internal sound and 1 heat sound but not the 1000 birds sound for new bh..
Note: if you are planning to use the 1000 birds sound make sure your internal is dark enough.
Thanks for ur comments. Wow...this is my 1st time hearing about Riau 123 internal sound. Hopefully can try this sound soon from ur blog.
What do u mean by heat sound boss?
I hav tried 1000 birds sound in my least populated bh. but only for few minutes only. i tried after the birds just return home (7pm). thru my cctv, i don think the birds are so keen on this sound. mayb i din play the right sound :(
today birds around my bh were not keen to play or react to sound. weather for whole day was hot, medium wind, and one thing i noticed, the moon is so so so BRIGHT and round tonight. Just like a powerful spot light in the sky!
Any specific meaning to this Boss Wiki and frens? i thought tht birds are more keen to react to sound during days with full moon. well, i gues im wrong.
Pls share ur view about this moon thingy :) thanks
babyking 49,253KB 1:02:50hr superinap 115,589KB 1:01:38hr Is it the same as you guys?
Eugene, bird's shit turn white means they're mating .. making nest soon Lol recently someone told me that, you shouldn't bother about the design of a BH. What matters is you own a land with a house equipped with tweeter and thats left is to wait.. I almost !@#$!% that guy =.=
the babyking i hav is only 21 minutes length. according to fren who gav this sound to me, he said he bought direct from sifu harry. the inap super i hav is same length as urs.
Sifu Wiki, Like that statement:'good internal sound like the classical 123 riau sound (very bad recording even with chicken calling sound can be heard)... ' LOL. Never heard about 123 riau. Chicken calling also attract swiftlet ..LOL. Never know Babyking slow to stimulate nest producing but good to attract bird.
Bro Summer, Watery white shit is good sign? Can confirm? Or having diarrhea or stress up after making luv non stop? LOL. Always tot when they are relax, comfortable dropping will be dry, in full like cicak dropping. Watery white shit something is going on. Sifu-sifu can confirm white watery shit is good sign?
123 riau is one of the best internal sound, you can check around. Since you have doubt in 123 riau so i guess i might as well kept it for myself haha!!
As for the white poop my opinion is because all of there waste comes out of the same hole at the same time. The white poop you see some believe it is the urine, and the darker part is the fecal content. And the watery part, i had to agreed with Eugune it has to be some sort of diarrhea because normally birds poop hole its shape.
Something must be wrong with the water or food taken by your birds. Have you check your nitrate level for you BH , i hope you are not adopting the conventional method of breeding switlet with plenty of infected poop + humidifier blasting out contaminated mist.
No doubt of what you say. Must admit you are one of the sincere and helpful farmer we ever met. That you for you kind and good works. Sorry for my ignorance of 123 riau. Oh by the way first time got labelled sifu status .. LOL. Ya, pls let us try 123 riau. We are not birds so cannot tell what they are talking anyway.
No offence. White pop happened when BH started not long still quite clean so nitrate shouldn't be the issue. My old 'con' consultant said white poop not good, sign of birds getting stress esp when right around 1 week after sound change.
We all share opinion, knowledge, hearsay, right or not. If many can confirm, then must be right.
To your reply Eugene, the white watery stuff atually i can only guarantee 50% it is a good sign .. as i think Pak H. and Pak J. blog say so too.. But in lowyat forum their opinion is the same as your "old" consultant I only see it when birds are going to make nest after they stay in my bh for a certain period though(try check if you only see those white stuff near your nest)
Wiki and Waletboy can you give me a link to Babyking and 123riau?? Greatly appreciated :)
There are 2 consideration here, white poop with proper shape and white watery poop without proper shape from my understanding both hold different meaning.. :)
White poop is very common and very normal i am sure all bh birds shit do have white poop. as for watery like diarrhea honestly i really love to understand further because this can be one of the very important swiftlet birds sign for us to strategies our decision making..
Honestly I am glad Boss Eugene brought up this issue and having you to help all of us exploring this small important sign..
Btw, wiki have just forwarded you EW002 as for 123 , oopss when the time comes wiki will share out this sound :)
ty bro wiki,hope to be able to have tea with you at least once :)
Guys to clarify the "white poop" question please take notice if there's any complete/incomplete nest in the making above them. In my case i only see them when there's nest.
Btw, anyone here used Fendona SC before? What's the color of the solution? Mind share me the effective ratio SC - Water?
My experience of white watery poop 1 wk after sound change. Not those white with proper shape one. And white watery poop happened at new spots where those birds still need some time to make nest. May be tat time Babyking sound level too high. Not sure the actual reason.
Fendona is white in color. Ratio of SC-Water can be found on the bottle. Can't really remember brain overload with too much info ;).
What different is between extreme for inap (link1) and extreme for inap-safe (link 2)
ReplyDeletehonestly i think it is the same just both link are contributed by two different genius who successfully break the sd lock .. feel bad for sifu madifa...
Deletelol i can break sd-lock but i never bought swiftlet sound before... so haha =.=
ReplyDeleteHow is it compares with Super Inap from Pak AB? Own experience Super Inap much better than Renoma 2 and even Babyking. Nest increase few times with Super Inap.
ReplyDeleteboss eugene do you meant the super inap shared here on wikiwalet? I've always wanted to try another internal sound(using superbabyking) but always too scared and unsured.
ReplyDeleteBoss wiki can i compare superbabyking and super inap by making them into right/left sound? Is it advisable to play 2 internal sound at once in a bh? Please help anyone !!
I belief there is nothing wrong for playing 2 different internal sound, to be more safe my advise is try separate both sound like in two session or two different nesting room..
DeleteAs for superbabyking i heard it is good however i am still going with babyking , whereas for super inap so far i only tried this sound for my roving area and it is really good.
Btw , boss summer is your superbabyking really giving great result as many ppl claimed? Always wanted to try this sound..
Atually i've only used 2 internal sound before .. 1 provided by my consultant and the other is superbabyking ... The one my consultant used hardly makes the bird stick to the tweeter .. So i decided to change to superbabyking, the result bird stick to the tweeter and after 3month i've seen more nest and accumulated birdshit.
ReplyDeletewiki, can you kindly give the link for Superbabyking and Babyking? I dont know if my version is the same as yours.. I recently found out that the Hypno-5 you shared out is the same as Superbabyking lol
Interesting finding .. wiki will look into this sound hypno 5 and superbabyking sound...
Deletenote: many sound have similar tone but always observe the sound wave, recording format, the sound technique and most important the content of the sound and the sequence + etc.
All in all, we should always give credit to our great swiftlet phd sound.. Wiki is merely only a DJ trying to learn my way to invent a new wave of swiftlet sound, again definitely with a great numbers of powerful loop in my album by our great sifu as references.
Boss Summer, I'm referring to original Super Inap from Pak Arief, assuming it is the same as in Wikiwalet.
ReplyDeleteOriginally consultant used Babyking (other name) but result not good. Partly or should say mainly due to screw up design by the consultant. 1 yr record totally of 1 nest by the 'sifu' and still asking to be patiencely wait.
Took over immediately, seeked some advices and reno. Used Renoma 2, yes some improvement but still slow aft mths. Again, did couple of reno.
Once change sound from Renoma to Babyking and the shits turned white. Still puzzle some say it is sign that birds got stressed up if you see watery white dropping, is it true? Tat's own experience with Babyking during sound change.
Later, replaced with Super Inap and the number having been steadily increasing every month. Again, mainly due to major design change, sound is add on bonus.
Dear walet frens,
ReplyDeleteTo me who is newb, im kind of puzzled about internal sounds.
thru my listening to the sounds,
1.BJA (external) shared in wiki's blog is same as my baby king sound.
2.Inap Super of Pak AB is similar to Super Inap shared in wiki's blog.
Can fellow frens here pls confirm?
right now im using 2 internal sounds i bought directly from sifu with locked sd card.
1 sound is similar to BJA internal as shared by wiki and the other is mostly the sound of very young baby birds (piyik tak berbulu i think).
Sound no.1 seems to perform better with more nest counts near its tweeters right now. but i might be wrong due to i play this sound at corner tweeters and due to frequent change in external sound previously.
right now, i hav got all internal conditions stabled, simplify and constant external sound which seemed quite encouraging. i will wait and see the results.
fellow frens, what are good characteristics of internal sound to be used for new bh?
I hope we can share our ideas here and mutual learning.
Happy WALET - ing :)
Referring to your question about BJA & Babyking.. I am sure many of us already aware Babyking is the edited version of BJA from indonesia. The Bja shared in the blog is the original version if i am not mistaken.. However, if you asked me which version should i go with i will have to support sifu harry for this sound :)
DeleteOne thing i am sure many aware, babyking is a very good sound to lure baby swiftlets staying in your new bh but in long run you will notice birds tend to take more own sweet time making their nest as compared to many good internal sound like the classical 123 riau sound (very bad recording even with chicken calling sound can be heard)...
As the result, what i did to balance up my population and nest is i used 2 internal sound played at 2 separate session in my bh.. and the result is very welcoming.. :)
Try consider using 1 clear internal sound and 1 heat sound but not the 1000 birds sound for new bh..
Note: if you are planning to use the 1000 birds sound make sure your internal is dark enough.
cheers..
Hi Boss Wiki,
DeleteThanks for ur comments. Wow...this is my 1st time hearing about Riau 123 internal sound. Hopefully can try this sound soon from ur blog.
What do u mean by heat sound boss?
I hav tried 1000 birds sound in my least populated bh. but only for few minutes only. i tried after the birds just return home (7pm). thru my cctv, i don think the birds are so keen on this sound. mayb i din play the right sound :(
today birds around my bh were not keen to play or react to sound. weather for whole day was hot, medium wind, and one thing i noticed, the moon is so so so BRIGHT and round tonight. Just like a powerful spot light in the sky!
Any specific meaning to this Boss Wiki and frens? i thought tht birds are more keen to react to sound during days with full moon. well, i gues im wrong.
Pls share ur view about this moon thingy :) thanks
babyking 49,253KB 1:02:50hr
ReplyDeletesuperinap 115,589KB 1:01:38hr
Is it the same as you guys?
Eugene, bird's shit turn white means they're mating .. making nest soon
Lol recently someone told me that, you shouldn't bother about the design of a BH. What matters is you own a land with a house equipped with tweeter and thats left is to wait.. I almost !@#$!% that guy =.=
Hi Boss Summer,
Deletethe babyking i hav is only 21 minutes length. according to fren who gav this sound to me, he said he bought direct from sifu harry. the inap super i hav is same length as urs.
Good day!
Sifu Wiki,
ReplyDeleteLike that statement:'good internal sound like the classical 123 riau sound (very bad recording even with chicken calling sound can be heard)... ' LOL. Never heard about 123 riau. Chicken calling also attract swiftlet ..LOL. Never know Babyking slow to stimulate nest producing but good to attract bird.
Bro Summer,
Watery white shit is good sign? Can confirm? Or having diarrhea or stress up after making luv non stop? LOL. Always tot when they are relax, comfortable dropping will be dry, in full like cicak dropping. Watery white shit something is going on. Sifu-sifu can confirm white watery shit is good sign?
Dear sifu eugene,
ReplyDelete123 riau is one of the best internal sound, you can check around. Since you have doubt in 123 riau so i guess i might as well kept it for myself haha!!
As for the white poop my opinion is because all of there waste comes out of the same hole at the same time. The white poop you see some believe it is the urine, and the darker part is the fecal content. And the watery part, i had to agreed with Eugune it has to be some sort of diarrhea because normally birds poop hole its shape.
Something must be wrong with the water or food taken by your birds. Have you check your nitrate level for you BH , i hope you are not adopting the conventional method of breeding switlet with plenty of infected poop + humidifier blasting out contaminated mist.
THis is just my opinion , pls don't be offended!
Dear Sifu Wikiwalet,
ReplyDeleteNo doubt of what you say. Must admit you are one of the sincere and helpful farmer we ever met. That you for you kind and good works. Sorry for my ignorance of 123 riau. Oh by the way first time got labelled sifu status .. LOL. Ya, pls let us try 123 riau. We are not birds so cannot tell what they are talking anyway.
No offence. White pop happened when BH started not long still quite clean so nitrate shouldn't be the issue. My old 'con' consultant said white poop not good, sign of birds getting stress esp when right around 1 week after sound change.
We all share opinion, knowledge, hearsay, right or not. If many can confirm, then must be right.
Many thanks again Sifu Wikiwalet.
You are welcome my dear friend.. :)
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ReplyDeleteTo your reply Eugene, the white watery stuff atually i can only guarantee 50% it is a good sign .. as i think Pak H. and Pak J. blog say so too.. But in lowyat forum their opinion is the same as your "old" consultant
ReplyDeleteI only see it when birds are going to make nest after they stay in my bh for a certain period though(try check if you only see those white stuff near your nest)
Wiki and Waletboy can you give me a link to Babyking and 123riau?? Greatly appreciated :)
Dear summer,
ReplyDeleteThere are 2 consideration here, white poop with proper shape and white watery poop without proper shape from my understanding both hold different meaning.. :)
White poop is very common and very normal i am sure all bh birds shit do have white poop. as for watery like diarrhea honestly i really love to understand further because this can be one of the very important swiftlet birds sign for us to strategies our decision making..
Honestly I am glad Boss Eugene brought up this issue and having you to help all of us exploring this small important sign..
Btw, wiki have just forwarded you EW002 as for 123 , oopss when the time comes wiki will share out this sound :)
ty bro wiki,hope to be able to have tea with you at least once :)
ReplyDeleteGuys to clarify the "white poop" question please take notice if there's any complete/incomplete nest in the making above them. In my case i only see them when there's nest.
Btw, anyone here used Fendona SC before? What's the color of the solution? Mind share me the effective ratio SC - Water?
My experience of white watery poop 1 wk after sound change. Not those white with proper shape one. And white watery poop happened at new spots where those birds still need some time to make nest. May be tat time Babyking sound level too high. Not sure the actual reason.
ReplyDeleteFendona is white in color. Ratio of SC-Water can be found on the bottle. Can't really remember brain overload with too much info ;).