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Project Objective
To measure the most suitable level of excitement for our Internal Pooling Sound
To Create A New Internal Legend Sound
PHASE 1 : SOUND DISTRIBUTION
Launching Date : 16th of September 2012
To Identify the Best Internal Sound Recording for our Level 2 Sound
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SEPTEMBER INAP ORIGIN
I-KRYPTONITE [1]
"Level 1 Excitement"
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"Level 1 Excitement"
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Txs. Boss Wiki
ReplyDeleteBoss Wiki,
ReplyDeleteJust to confirm, should we use this sound for nesting plank or internal pulling?
pls advise.
Thanks a lot.
+1
ReplyDeletegonzo1588@gmail.com
this level 1 internal sound supposed to be for nesting plank , however for our project purpose i would like you guys to conduct your sound analyst using your chandelier as pooling. Let's see how long our swiftlet will glued to this sound.
ReplyDeleteTry listen to this sound using an internal tweeter attached to you PC. Normal subwoofer or bass tweeter should hear some sort of echo!
In addition , i will also be releasing another similar september inap origin sound just the Revival Version .. Clear recording however slightly different sequences if you listen carefully enough..
For Phase 1 remember to gather as much bullets as possible, Try to understand how our swiftlet respond to our excitement level !
Guys For this project please try to use mediafire files instead of Soundcloud !!
ReplyDelete+1.
ReplyDeleteThank you
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ReplyDelete+1 Good Morning Master Wiki
DeleteSorry for my late contribution i was busy upgrading my BH whole the whole week after reading your email.
AS per your advised
Entrance Hole : Prototype M + Desire Panggil (since i received this 2 sound)
Internal Dummy EH : Victory nwo version "Rave Party"
Nesting Room : Open Area Break into 3 section , each section 1 chandelier , 1 amp & 1 sound + 1 Flourescent Light , within My Nesting room lead to my Vip Room & Also increase additional 300 fake nests + 3 ultrasonic humidifier.
Section A : Baby King
Section B : Desire Inap 1
Section C : September Inap (just had it changed) I love this sound
VIP Room : Desire Inap 3 (very successful)
Each Section sound only Cover 1 Chandelier + 4 Internal Tweeters & 2 External Tweeters as master advised. Vip Room Remained as Normal
5 CCTV rearranged to cover this Project Nesting Room
- 1 facing dummy internal EH
- 2 covering Open Area Nesting Room
- 2 Covering Vip Nesting Room
Master Wiki, this is my contribution to your Project, Thank you very much for all your sincere advise and sharing. You make swiftlet farming more interesting.
Sound Respond report
16th : very Little birds
17th : today Morning I notice many birds do not know why! will keep on monitoring for the next 1 week , Master i think Desire Panggil is good ! really look forward to tryout the full version
Welcome back boss Elisha!
DeleteGlad to have you been part of our project team.
To make your Swiftlet observation more benefiting try using purpose and objective data gathering method .. Etc. use weather changes , moon and your birds daily routine as your indicator.. This will help you obtain a clearer understanding and ease your sound selection strategy!
regards
wikiwalet
sifu +1 internal kryptonite 1 and 2...ada lagi?just ask.ching.joyce.2000@gmail.com.miss internal sound
ReplyDeleteBoss joyce , you have not missed this sound yet .. under this phase 1, wiki will ensure all sound been properly distributed .. no one will miss anything this time! Just haven't been release !
Delete:)
ok...just read the this message today...sifu..i downoad it..sometime my english...sorry...all follower feedback i use bable fish to translate.must learn ...until success..today sunday.no work just online...thanks wiki..
Delete+1 Boss Wiki,
ReplyDeleteHope to have these sound too, thank you.
naviepink@yahoo.com
Master wiki,
ReplyDeletenot sure if you read my message left in the desire panggil.
I sincerely hope you can help me out on the questions that i asked.
I really need help and advise on these.
Thank you
+1 boss wiki
ReplyDeletetanabeson@yahoo.com
Morning seems to be doing great, afternoon another boring day! But surprising i think i get some new baby birds today!!
ReplyDeleteLet's keep our finger cross tomorrow will be a whole new interesting day!!
Note: Best time to enter your bh.
boss,, i need your help
ReplyDeleteis the bird stay in BH in the morning ?
or the bird just stay at our BH in the evening..?
because i see the bird in the morning is more crowd than evening..
Morning respond normally our own nesting birds busy feeding so you might see more Birds flying in and out activity.
DeleteNever underestimate this benefits because this is normally how our bh get more birds and i called this as the Crowd Pooling Effect .
As for Bh have yet to have any nest or very little birds (within 100) you might want to work harder and spend more morning session with you bh, usually playing with our swiftlet sound is what most of us do. However you can also consider using water sprinkler and insects breeding to bring up the success rate.
A good morning session will lead to bigger crowd in the afternoon and evening.
For afternoon effect, we normally estimate our own birds will fly back to our bh around 12 to latest 2pm this reading is more accurate for bh already with swiftlet making nests. However, you might also experience at certain part of the month where our birds just fly away to the next state or some belief this birds fly very high in the sky and not visible to our human eyes! (Just call it the Ignoring period)
All ignoring period will slowly recover and i notice it is always start with better morning crowd and slowly evening and eventually whole day!
Good News, today morning is certainly not a boring day for me .. To really get an extreme crowd , the timing of sound changing is important , Not because the sound is good but merely i belief new sound lead to new excitement and it will help to jump start our BH for better tomorrow.
Just imagine your surrounding bh owner only visit their bh once a month certain BH once a week, but What i did was with my "Swiftlet Tamagochi System" I can monitor (cctv) and change my bh sound whenever i go as long as i have my internet excess :) . Try configure your Sound management link to a Computer with an Enabled Remote Access Setting. Fall Back the reliability is always a concern! So Manual management is still very important.
Referring Back to your qustion, I am sure you might want to understand which is the best solution to maintain a constant crowd - not extreme crowd but constant. Simple and most acceptable answer will still be Insect Breeding. As for sound, obviously will depends to your selection based on your BH and Your locality swiftlet flying rhythms , Every Area birds flying Rhythms or timing is different .. Something i had highlighted in my previous project.
All in all, ask yourself which hour of the day you normally notice birds chasing each other ? Try to medley your sound according to this behaviour using more mating sound selection. As for morning which ever sound can attract your neighbours Adults birds company by their baby is the best. To achieve this you need to align your tweeter position accordingly (something I had mention so many times) And i find that at least 2 type of sound needed to deliver this results..
Swiftlet farming had been so sophisticated nowadays, unlike before where we can just attract birds with one entrance hole sound, Many BH owner have their secret technique worst even the successful bh is hunger for more birds compared to last time where you can see certain bh just stop playing sound after achieving thousands of birds.. Always remember our bh will always be an underdog compared to the successful bh , but we can still capture their Baby birds if we strategies our direction properly. For new BH pls concentrate on seeing your own birds , why see other ppl birds. :) Big crowd not necessary mean success. (pls learn from my mistake)
best regards
wikiwalet
Boss..Wiki boleh tak kirim Desire Panggil kalo boleh kirim ke Toro_jambol@ymail.com
ReplyDeleteThanks.
Very boring day. Birds might be hidden somewhere! Also I found that yesterday afternoon, thousands of birds came to my BH because my neighbor (5000+ nests) harvested nests not because the new sounds! Today they came back home! lol.
ReplyDeleteSince boss longbinh highlighted this harvesting issue.. To all my swiftlet followers , it is fair if i share this with you guys as well..
DeleteBest time to harvest refer to your swiftlet respond indicator , i used the full moon calender.. Try not to piss off your birds when you harvest choose your timing wisely.
Good news, normally most bh owner with so many kilos of nests you will not bother losing few birds.
Try to take advantage from this scenario even 10 to 20 birds increments is still increments and try to avoid this ignorant behavior , our new bh cannot effort to lose out 20 birds , 20 birds for 200 birds population is almost 10 % . Worst the recovery time is so stressful!
Something for you guys to figure out!!
Cheers wikiwalet
+1 , Bos wiki ,
ReplyDeleteI-KRYPTONITE [2] ,"Level 1 Excitement" ,still unable download .
ah_min_1688@yahoo.com
rectified ...
Delete+1 Thanks
Delete17th afternoon Session was pretty average , So I had my staff change my hexagon tweeter to a new DIY hexagon shape tweeter as advised .
ReplyDeleteHexagon setting Internal tweeter direction same with entrance hole and a new DIY exhaust pipe bazooka (compressor magnet tweeter) positioning towards evening swiftlet flying away direction as advised by master wiki.
Master , i also notice many birds attracted to my worker interruption while setting up my hexagon, may i know why?
DIY Hexagon tweeter sequences as advised (Internal + External + Internal + External)
Dear Master Wiki your Hexagon formula really fantastic, As soon as this hexagon put into action , my excitement towards this hexagon immediately turn to
I LOVE YOU~~~ Master wiki :)
Birds don't just kiss this hexagon, mostly entered my bh. i am so happy seeing so many birds playing within my bh , just cannot keep my eyes from how this birds love this hexagon and my entrance hole .. Thank you master for you sincere and great help.
As for my Internal respond, based on my cctv recording birds loved September inap and desire inap, so many birds play around the lighting within my nesting room , so many flying around activity some even chase each other within the nesting room.
Bird Count Report
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Section C : September Inap 8 new birds sleeping together very close to each and another
Section B : Desire Inap 2 birds
Section A : Baby King No birds
As for my VIP room : Desire Inap 3 now i have like 37 birds already.
TOday on the 18th , Dear master I lost count how many birds playing within inside and outside of my bh . So many birds :) So happy.
I am using NGOD for my hexagon after reading so many good feedback.
For today afternoon session , i changed Section A & B chandelier sound (time changed 12pm)
Section A : kriptoonight 1
Section B : September inap Clear version
Afternoon session Internal Nesting room I see more birds within my vip room Desire Inap win as for open area nesting room Result very mix because birds just fly from one sound to another , some just fly around and mostly fly into vip room and fly out. The lighting is very successful .
Will keep my report update thank you and love you so much master wiki!
Dear Elisha,
DeleteI am surprise after reading your above posting " so many birds play around the lighting within my nesting room " and your previous posting "+ 1 Flourescent Light "
Do you turn on your light 24hours? How then the light intensity?
Can you share more information on the difference of birds response to light on and off conditions? Some sifu tend to recommend very dark conditions without any light inside. Some say should be less 2 lux in term of light intensity or very dim condition.
Dear Elisha & Allan
DeleteDon't be surprise . Birds tend to prefer total darkness or maximum 2 lux for for nesting purpose. In term of excitement level 1 flourescent light in an open area nesting room is still consider dim. However, we might want to play with the timing for the lighting using timer clock to be achieve better nesting results. In terms of getting birds i don't see much effect but obviously not in very bright room besides nowadays BH always come with ViP rooms if this birds prefer total darkness let's them decide!
Btw try observe many successful BH , you will be even more surprise , some actually turn their light on for 24 hours and this birds actually make nest just beside the light!
Oh well in swiftlet Farming anything is possible. Trust ME!
Cheers Wikiwalet
Ho Ho Ho .. I guess our Dark Knight Project not so dark after all ... I am so glad you guys start sharing / contributing . You guys rock!!
DeleteDear Boss Wiki and frens,
Deletei wish to try out the lighting in nesting room too bcos i hav some sections in bh still not stayed by birds after a yr.
can u pls share with me the proper way to do the lighting?
i mean how many watts of fluorescent light should i use?
how to position the light? should the light be channelled to the floor? or should it face up to light the room?
how should we use timer to control the lighting? what is the appropriate time to switch on?
Pls share and advise me Boss Wiki and frens.
Thanks a million.
Thanks Boss Wiki,
DeleteYou really broaden my view. The rush change darkness from roving room to nesting I believe now could be one of the reason making the birds skeptical to fly into nesting and just wandering beside the door in my BH.
Could you please share also the proper sound volume of each area, nesting vs internal pulling vs EH vs pooling? Improper volume may discount the result regardless how good the sound.
One of my friend reminded me to tune the internal sound as loud as possibe(unbearable by human ear) which oppositive to I did for the past 8 months with soft volume. Recently, I realized he is true after seeing birds stick to internal entrance tweeter which is much louder than NR tweeter.
Lastly, pls add me(alee16999@gmail.com)to your distribution list.
Higher volume method actually depends to how we design our bh and how we position our tweeters !
DeleteSound volume also play an important role when come to directing this birds to our preferred NR , that is the reason why certain nesting room come with lower volume as vip normally louder !! but try not exceed 40 db ! Just be moderate ! Try listen to Desire Inap Sound - it is louder compared to other internal sound!
so not much volume adjustment needed!
As for too soft volume , honestly i had to agree with you .. because i had noticed many times when i conduct new sound trial , even the good sound birds not showing any respond when the volume is very low however when increased the volume higher birds start kissing the tweeters .. Simple indicator, we are suppose to hear our internal sound outside our BH best time to tell will be in the night!
Note : for those who practice more than one internal sound for your BH pls try to be moderate. Make use of this sound Volume to instruct your birds ! Extremely loud volume not advisable!
Sound Volume - My Current Setting
EXTERNAL : Maximum 50%
Note : magnet Tweeter Normally can only support up to 50% depends to your amplifier manufacturer volume setting.. Normally 50% will be good enough to shorten your magnet tweeter life span.
Malaysian BH owner i am afraid you guys do not have this privileges to play loud volume for your external sound !!
Internal : I have many different volume setting for my NR depends to the NR population and numbers of tweeters . Room with Chandelier normally i will have my center sound louder nesting plank loud corners softer
Vip room : Corner Louder & nesting Plank just Loud !
volume level : Direct volume 40% / Main volume 50&
8 Direct port each amplifier ! using left and right method allow me to play 2 sound for 1 amplifier!
Internal Pooling :
External + internal sound tweeter combination!
Volume adjustment just maintain with internal sound setting considering most of my internal pooling sound already come with louder volume! try not to make this internal pooling sound too loud because sometimes when we create an internal pooling sound the type of loop selection may not 100% make sense to our internal birds! so to be safe just stick with moderate sound volume!!
I hope I answered your question boss allan!! Welcome to our project team!! Thanks for your great sharing & Love to hear from you more!!
Cheers
wikiwalet
Tq master wiki!!
DeleteDear Boss Wiki,
ReplyDeleteYour swiftlet sound respond Prediction really accurate , I had never know boss actually also know how to do birds prediction ! you are full of surprises!! Salute to boss wikiwalet.
hehe i was actually waiting for your prediction to go wrong so i can call you and teased you upside down wkwkwk again you manage to pull some interesting stunt.
FOr you reference, September Inap Origins seems to be delivering better result compared to September Inap REvival.. BOss wiki i also notice both sound actually sounded different , Pls correct me if i am wrong!
Desire Inap + prototype M is very good! Today seems to be very big crowd , feel sad for my next door bh.
Boss wiki may i contribute by sharing your event history from day one hehe i am sure many members here not aware of your contribution to our swiftlet industry .. Just thinking..
Most important thanks boss wiki for all your great sound will be looking forward to see you back in malaysia! tc
note: please check your email boss wiki, i sent you some new sound last week. i am sure your inbox must be so crowded with mails. :)
DeleteThanks Sifu!!
DeleteGreat sound you shared .. Love it!
As for the prediction hehe! Down the road I learned some new tricks ! Besides I don't think this is something new and i belief many consultant also aware of this forecast method.
That is how they fascinate us the BH OWNER with their swiftlet sound "MAGIC" . So Guys next time be more Smart , you do not want to be hypnotize by consultant tricks!! Some less experience consultant might overlook this hypnotise technique. Opss!
If i am a consultant, i am sure many BH owner will end up KENA PUKAU by wikiwalet hahaha "give me your money x2" Use my sound pay me now !! My sound can attract so many birdS.
Damn!! this is all just an illusion! like david copperfield! However no doubt david copperfield is still a genius! So end up we just pay to be entertained!
All in all, If there is any GrandMaster willing to share or transfer technology like Swiftlet Breeding or Captive (MUST PAY OBVIOUSLY) . Wikiwalet advise GO for it, pay him very well !! cannot go wrong unless he is not willing to share!
Sorry for my crazy thoughts, no offence!
wikiwalet
+1 Toro_jambol@ymail.com
ReplyDeleteBoss Wiki kirimkan saya Desire Panggil ke email saya
thanks.
Good Morning Guys!!
ReplyDeleteI notice many of our project members have not downloaded SIB pooling, Pls do so !! Initially i wanted to release Hala Langit + Desire Panggil Medley " Skywalker" however i find that Skywalker is still very much Hala Langit Effect and might not suitable to our Internal Sound Experiment..
AGain SIB Pooling might not have much promotion but not necessary without recommendation means ineffective :)
Pls do not miss out this sound! Use this sound whenever u find the needs to start calling birds.. Those who had listen to this sound should realized I had actually medley few very reliable pooling sound and obviously with wikiwalet Touch! :)
Note: This sound should be able to jump start your BH , best method to use this booster sound , remember medley you sound programme properly , too much pooling may get more birds awareness but not necessary lead increase in stay over .. ALways remember you need to balance you external sound properly !! (Especially for those who are using more than 3 external sound)
Simple Indicator
( Internal sound Segement : Repeating Sound Segment : Noisy Sound Segment : Mating Sound : Etc!)
Just ask yourself how many variety or swiftlet loop you actually covered for your External Sound Selection. What else is Missing?
Good luck Guys
+1 :) True Master Wiki . SIB is working.
Deletebig crowd playing on my roof top this morning . after installed new tweeters - play SIB pooling .
bw busy fly in fly out since installed SIB pooling. chandeliar A-I-KRYPTONITE [1] and chandeliar B- I-KRYPTONITE [2] .
EH- Desire pgl + September (Xwave) .
will add in prototype M as EH sound . thanks bos Wiki
today sunny morning
DeleteSIB attract small crowd bw ,
A & B , not significant compared sep inap ori ,
more bw to vip room ( desire inap)
changed - Chandeliar A - Sep internal pooling (level 2)
chandeliar B - sep inap ori
Thanks Master Wiki , sep internal pooling look good . monitor few more days ...
EH- Desire pgl + sep(xwave)+ prototype M
Deletelate afternoon, cloudy , bw more compared today morning (after changed to sep internal pooling + sep inap ori ) .
hexa - SIB , bw circle on top .
Deletetesting slot in NGOD to Hexa . bw crazy + chasing + kiss tweeter .
tested 10 min, changed back SIB .
Boss ah !!
Deletelet's forget about september inap 2 clear version.. birds hardly attracted to this sound still wondering why! In terms of sequences i don't see any problem as for sound quality ,so much obvious better than September Inap 1 although Sept Inap 1 selection origin shh shh from desire Inap! mix with some other good sound!!
Maybe I should also start looking back on the EQ of the sound selection for sept inap2 something must be wrong somewhere!!
AS for sept internal pooling 1 i find that there are still room for improvement! will come back to u guys for level 2 excitement sound!
To equip you guys for phase 2 all qualified project members will be getting 1 more external pooling sound ...
+1 :) Thanks Master Wiki .
Deletecloudy morning , crowd bw .
A & B look good , bw getting more .
looking forward to test phase 2 excitement sound + 1 more external pooling sound .
maintain present sound setting , look like not willing to change ...
Deletein the process DIY pvc bazoka , going to test " Jump Start " ...
some one told me using beer bottle - glass bazooka .. the sound very sharp .. anyone tested this method before!! in theory i think should work better compared to pvc.. I had 1 pvc shape bazooka and i find that if i make the pvc too long the sound quality drop , exhaust pipe is okay very similar to our normal bazooka in the market !!
DeleteI am curious about Glass corn bazooka !
+1 DARK KNIGHT PROJECT
ReplyDeletethanks for sharing =D
My report!
ReplyDeleteSeptember Inap origins outperform revival version . in terms of stay over night birds . Excitement level both is equally good .
+1 to SIB really good crowd calling sound
+1 to prototype M + Desire Panggil (not able to really see Desire Panggil Effect boss wiki you might want to consider sharing us the full version so we can try)
will test kryptonite tomorrow and Sept Inap Pooling , so excited to tryout excitement level 2 sound ..
thx boss wiki
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Delete20/9/2012
ReplyDeletechange my 3rd floor Sept Inap Origins to 2nd Floor
Replace by krytonite 1 for morning and 2 for afternoon
Sept Inap Pooling tested with one chandelier located in 3rd floor
Result
- Kryptonite 1 & 2 just able to attract birds to kiss the tweeter but not extreme. 3 birds stay overnight for K1 & k2 5 birds stick till late in the evening eventually end up in one of my NR.
- September Inap Origin Second floor SUCCESS , maybe my own birds but confirmed birds love this sound . very active activity and able to convinced birds to glued to this sound.
Increase NR lighting lux and increase sound Volume !
- September Inap pooling need to observe more hours , i find this sound also good , check my recording 4am 5 birds still glued to this chandelier. maybe my own birds.
Birds glued to external + internal sound !! Interesting.
21/9/2012
8.00 am morning very big crowd - 1st floor NR with insects very successful many birds trapped within my bh Thank you boss wiki .. the beer really works.
SIB+DesirePanggil! Successful!
NWO sound very successful , my surrounding birds love it!
My report
ReplyDelete18th & 19th ! quick glance through my cctv recording! section A : krytonight & Section B September Inap CLear Version Section C : maintain with September Inap 1 (origins)
i notice birds also responded to both sound
Bird Count Report (time 3am)
18th
Section A : 1 birds stay over (Nesting Plank Corner )
Section B : 2 birds
Section C : 8 birds
Vip Room : 47 birds (big Increase maybe migrate from another room)
19th
Section A : no bird
Section B : 5 birds
Section C : 13 birds
Vip Room : 43 birds
20th :
Change section B sound to i krytonight 2
Section A : no bird
Section B : 5 birds
Section C 18 birds all corner !
VIP room : at least 49 birds
Master wiki should i stop changing sound. I am happy with the results . everytime i change sound i am worried :)
TOday Changes !
Hexagon : i follow sifu AH! love reading his comment very useful.. change to SIB
Section A : change to September Inap pooling level 2 ! (respond very good)
Overall for the last 3 days very very constant birds respond!
will update my report tonight!
+1 :) thanks
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